Data shows no significant increase in pollution due to Diwali

The liberals are in outrage over Hindu celebration of Diwali. Since they could not find any other problem, they are outraging over some fumes caused by crackers during Diwali celebration. The irony gets lost over these arm-chair liberals who sit in AC during the whole summer, travel in airplanes and gas-guzzling SUVs, but leave no stone unturned to lecture the unwashed masses on protecting environment. Well, why should the unwashed masses celebrate anything and specially the Hindu heroes that the liberals hate so much?

This is what Livemint said:

The data shows that pollution levels this Diwali were far more dangerous than last year. As per the SAFAR data, last year after Diwali, the PM 2.5 levels were 428µg/m³ which was nearly six times the safe limit.

A newspaper which prides itself on reporting finance news does not even know the concept that air quality has too many factors and it is foolhardy to compare last year with this year’s level of pollution. A cloud cover can increase pollution much more than any Diwali. Or a small rain can reduce it to unimaginable levels. But why would they report anything else, when the agenda is to malign Diwali and somehow ban the festivity. The selective reporting of data to lecture pagans is something that libtards are best at.

So, how did the actual pollution levels looked like this week?


Pollution report from Anand Vihar for whole week before Diwali

Pollution report from R.K. Puram for whole week

The above figures are taken from here, which tracks air quality in real time. So what does the above figures show? There is no significant difference post Diwali i.e. Monday 31st October 2016 and the days preceding Diwali. So pollution levels were in dangerous territory the whole week before Diwali. The overall AQI (Air Quality Index) hovered around 500 both before and after Diwali. So, why the outrage?

It is obvious to anyone who understand even a little bit about air pollution that one day of Diwali will add hardly anything to the overall pollution levels in big cities, which get choked due to vehicular pollution as well as other factory emissions. The pollution goes down a wee bit over the weekends and Diwali might have kept it a little bit higher, but if you can live with high pollution on 365-52 days (year minus weekends), you can very well live with one more day of pollution on Diwali.

The data punctures the narrative on high pollution levels due to Diwali. There is not much change in pollution due to Diwali even compared to previous week and the increase is definitely negligible in the overall pollution levels in a pollution sink-hole like Delhi. So, liberals can go and whine while we heathens will continue to celebrate our festivals with great pomp.

The truth is these libtards just want Diwali gone so that they can digest Hindus into Abrahamic fold just like they got rid of Roman and other pagans before. Remove the festivity and kill the heathen religion.

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  • guest

    Yeh baat!!! please do a proper study, even though informal…so that it is more detailed and many of us can use this to refute all the lies that are being spread….about diwali and pollution

  • Budd Margolis

    I witnessed AQI levels at 999 and the toxic chemical content of air pollution during Diwali and wedding seasons is a poisonous soup. Obviously those who think its just fog do not have respiratory or cardiac issues or care that 40,000 Delihites die prematurely because of air pollution. This is a disaster and it hurts the ill, elderly, pregnant and children the most. It is well proven that the impact in children both educationally and in terms of respiratory health is severe. Air pollution is worse indoors and is made up of crop burning, construction and earth dust, kerosene and diesel fuels, coal powers plants and diesel backup generators as well as rubbish burning and inefficient kitchen stoves. Old trucks and motorcycles are heavy polluters and cars but it is not the main cause of this problem. It is time that people stand up and protect their future. and communities health. Stop ripping trees down, start planting and go green. Thats where the future is. Green technology will provide a sustainable economy & jobs, reduce costs for every consumer and make India’s air cleaner.

    • Yuga Parivartan

      Stop living in Delhi if you have so many problems. Avg AQI before/during and after Diwali days is same. So we will burn crackers.

      Stop using cars on everyday level and then bitch about Diwali pollution. If you can deal with pollution everyday, better learn to deal with it on Diwali as well.

      • Megh Shah

        Fucking seriously. Crackers affect bronchitis/asthma patients a lot because of sulphide and nitride fumes but other than that air is almost just as bad all 365 days. Typical Delhiite logic: “I will drive my SUV for just a single rider, me, for 30 km, 300 days a year and then crib about AQI and blame it on some kids’ crackers.” People need to get their head out of their asses about the pollution caused by energy wastage, non-vegetarianism and excessive personal vehicles before hapring on about the evils of fooljhadis.

        • Budd Margolis

          Some people want to believe in lies and are not working to learn the truth. So I urge you to keep educating people with the truth, eventually they will see the illness around them and work to change the world into a better environment for all.

        • Budd Margolis

          There are many contributing problems that add to the pollution: Weather, cars, trucks, motorcycles, inefficient fuels, diesel and diesel backup electric generators, coal powered electricity, dust, construction dust, the weather & winter conditions, rubbish and crop burning, reduced tree and plant cover and fireworks. The pollution is most toxic indoors and in cars, offices and classrooms because the pollutants are concentrated. eE are losing 40,000 from premature death in Delhi every year. Go to hospitals and you will see children gasping for air. Odd/Even for cars did not prove to be effective and I believe that we must tackle all the problems with sustainable solutions. Building traffic air purifiers and mist spraying is not a solution, it is a bandaid on a major injury. We must work together for each others health and well being. This is not a political or religious view, it is one of care and concern for everyones health. Every day Delhites lose 2 hours of life expectancy. Fireworks are a source of toxins and drive discomfort beyond AQI 999. This is simply intolerable and unacceptable.

      • Budd Margolis

        That is not true. Please just check the facts: http://aqicn.org/city/india/new-delhi/us-embassy/

      • Budd Margolis

        Stop breathing. That would save all of us from this misery and stupidity.

    • guest

      HInduism’s Bhu Devi concept needs to be brought back. Then, pollution will go down by changing our lifestyles –in every action. The problem is that we ignore the good and absolutely eco-friendly nature of Hinduism and think that this concept of nature protection is some foreign import. Stop blaming hindu festivals. Firecrackers are used around the world. But the only system of faith today that allows us to recognise the value of a tree is hinduism. Bring back the systems that connect people to the land. And the pollution will go down even when there are crackers on Diwali!!

      • Budd Margolis

        Wise words.

        • guest

          quickly removed the like from my comment? 🙂 You see, I think of ‘the large picture’…..pin pointing one thing will not make it better. See the larger picture. 🙂

  • Budd Margolis

    Toxic levels fluctuate all day and actually are worse indoors and in cars. http://aqicn.org/city/india/new-delhi/us-embassy/

  • Budd Margolis
  • Budd Margolis
    • guest

      Budd, so many comments here, shows you are passionate about this issue. But have you thought about why a hindu festival is being targeted? Fireworks might be dangerous, but there are things FAR more dangerous that will not be stopped due to corporate involvement, and lobbying from industries. Do you realise that there is no one standing behind hindus but hindus who love their festivals. Have you seen what is being done to Indian civilisation now? What about preservatives that go in your food, honking on streets, beef industry –so many other things. Simple question, why focus on one holiday that takes about 3-4 days of bursting crackers?? If you really want to do something let me see you fight the big corporates that have polluted the world. Did you know that lighting diyas of mustard oil and even better ghee reduces pollution? The thing is there are no studies being done on it. No one will tell you that. So stop this nonsense, and stop complaining about one festival that uses this for a few days. Stop it. It is as if you are blaming hindus for this. But did you know the amount of paper and trees that are destroyed for christmas the world over?? Have people stopped it?? will they? Fight your battles where they make a difference. Even if fireworks have some negative effects, a week long celebration is NOTHING compared to what automobile industry does. But guess what, we hide behind our conveniences and do nothing about that. Be a spokes person for environment, if you plan to use public transport for the rest of your life, never take a plane, avoid bottled water, because see such a waste of plastic, and oh by the way keep away from computers, they are harmful too!! STOP THIS CAMPAIGN AGAINST HINDU FESTIVALS. STOP IT.

      • Budd Margolis

        Thank you for your response. I am not agaiunst Hindu festivals. I am against horns and discrimination, intolerance, filth, poverty, sickness and have only the highest respect for the Hindi religion and the fine upstanding people of India. Fireworks are killing people. 40,000 a year die prematurely in Delhi and millions across the wold. I care about every person especially those who can not care for themselves. There is no religious connection, obligation or reason for fireworks during Diwali other than the fact that the firework industry introduced this a few decades ago. The use of fireworks for weddings is also a very serious detriment to human health. I am for your health, your children’s health, the health of the elderly and pregnant women, those who have cardiac and respiratory issues. I do not have any interest in politics, only what is healthy for people living is the toxic soup of Delhis air. You make a lot of points. Paper for Xmas in Europe and North America is replenished, forests are replanted and companies recycle paper. The issue is that Christmas does not raise the toxins in the air that everyone has to breath. Your right to light fireworks causes harm to other people. If the pollution was as bad as it is now in the Delhi winter, there is no question there would be a ban. There lighting of fireworks is not without consequences. Please have a look at this: http://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/how-fireworks-kill-you-part-by-part-51690 and http://www.hindustantimes.com/st…/diwali-crackers-pollution/

        Happy Diwali !!!

        • guest

          your comment: Fireworks are killing people. 40,000 a year die prematurely in Delhi and millions across the wold. I care about every person especially those who can not care for themselves.

          SO ARE MANY OTHER THINGS. WHEN YOU KEEP PUTTING THESE NOTES ON FIREWORKS EVERYWHERE, PEOPLE WILL ASSOCIATE IT WITH DIWALI. So please stop it!! Fireworks for a week or so, one Indian celebration won’t do any harm. Get them banned on July 4th. They have music coordinated massive shows all over the US….Fireworks will not stop. THERE ARE OTHER THINGS YOU CAN WORK ON. When the pollution comes down, which is much more due to other things, then a few days on diwali on july the 4th won’t matter. So PUT YOUR ATTENTION ON OTHER THINGS.

        • guest

          Your comment: Paper for Xmas in Europe and North America is replenished, forests are replanted and companies recycle paper. The issue is that Christmas does not raise the toxins in the air that everyone has to breath.

          There your bias comes in. You telling me trees being cut down ALL OVER THE WORLD AND PAPER BEING WASTED ALL OVER THE WOLRD ON XMAS, IS LESS DANGEROUS THAN A FEW DAYS OF FIRECRACKERS IN INDIA? Please——

          • Budd Margolis

            What I say and science states, you refute with very weak logic. You have lost the argument by changing the meaning to suit your lie. I have a right to my opinion, you do not have any right whatsoever to tell me what I can believe in or that my statements are biased. I can respect your opinion but you should consider what is known and proven and what the difference between unhealthy and healthy for human beings. If you take a tree you replace it. If you make waste, you find a sustainable way to treat it so as not to hurt people and harm the planet. You state that the papers are behind a conspiracy to reduce Hindu values? I see ways to live better for everyone and the steps and change required to make the air breathable. This argument is only about the impact of toxins from fireworks and peoples health, not religion, cows, what others do is not an issue, it is a fabricated comment to deceive, to trick and fool people into thinking that this issue is anti religious or political. It clearly was not until you tried to deceive people. Your comments about trees are also inappropriate. THIS IS THE POINT: This article states falsehoods about pollution levels. It is both inaccurate and for whatever reasons tries to convince people that the fireworks for Diwali did not have any impact on air quality when in fact the Diwali fireworks increased the poison you breath beyond readings of 999. You have no right to tell me, or anyone else, what to believe. Your attack on my is unwarranted, unjustified and made with the weakest and most inaccurate logic possible. You are in fact hurting fellow Indians. Diwali, the most important Hindu festival in India, celebrates the victory of good over evil. The EVIL is ignorance because with education we can fight what harms people and change the world so that it is better and healthier for one and all. You have no right to attack anyone else for their opinions and beliefs. Try to use facts to make your case but do not tell others what to believe or how or where to live. Breath deeply and consider the harm caused by the air and then, I hope and pray, you do something to improve the quality of life for everyone.

          • guest

            using science and ignoring the science that diyas are also lit that remove and reduce the pollution and guess what, diyas are lit EVERY SINGLE DAY ALL OVER INDIA. check that science out. and also science says that modern lifestyle is what brought about environmental damage, not the native american lifestyle that was killed, not the indian lifestyle. even today, american pollutes many times more than india and china combined, even thought its population is minuscule compared to the two countries….please answer that first, before you start talking about ‘your concern for nature.’

          • Budd Margolis

            Nonsense. The AQI throughout American cities as well as North American & European is measured and displayed. They are low to very low more often than not. Delhi has the worlds worst air pollution. There are many reasons but you are breathing toxins at a hazardous level and it is fine that your ignorance places your health in jeopardy but to openly campaign for others to suffer is harmful to all Indians and all humans.

          • guest

            Remember what they were when the countries were developing??? India is developing, —–as is China, check out the smog in Shanghai and LA—–not that different and not lower than Delhi, and without fireworks…..Look, am not denying what the state in Delhi is, but you are EXAGGERATING IT…..and not recognising that these things happen in 1. countries that are developing 2. cities 3. countries with high population as the time of their development process……and till this date it its the west, that killed many civilisations that has contributed to the pollution most of all….please acknowledge that.

          • guest

            Since you mentioned Science, please add how much China and India pollutes and then compare it to the US and http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/each-countrys-share-of-co2.html#.WBnJ7BQa3N4

            and yes, we are kind enough to forgive your ‘oversight’

          • Budd Margolis

            The problem is Delhi and air pollution yet you try to change the subject. It is not about religion or faith, politics, anti this or anti that BUT one of human health and respect for those who are most susceptible: the elderly, pregnant, children and many who suffer cardiac and respiratory ailments. Do you have children? A wife or parents? Do you care about the people who have no choice but to breath in toxins which shortens the life span by 2 hours a day and prematurely kills 40,000 Delhites a year?

            This article says there is no difference from the Diwali fireworks. Have you read the AQI? Have you seen the thick smog? Can you see? You and everyone breaths this toxic soup. Delhi has become a gas chamber. It is not a political or racist view, it is acknowledged science and medical fact. We know that the WHO organistion tested Delhi school children and the classrooms and found high pollution levels and 30% decreased respiration. We know air pollution causes cancers and children’s brains.

            Time to wake up and smell the roses only the air is so foul you will be lucky to gasp for breath in the gas chamber that we permit Delhi to become.

          • guest

            Yes, the smog and the air, and it will subside in a few days, and it was the same when we were children. Here is the thing, you are doing the same thing that experts do, focusing on what you can see and ignoring what you cannot see. The issue of the US was brought because —-US being the biggest polluter in the world —continues to do so, also because the pollution is invisible there. Mexico city, no fireworks, sort of similar and worse than Delhi. Now please do tell me what was the state of cities like Pittsburgh, New York and London when the countries were developing????? No country and remember NO COUNTRY–has developed without going through a difficult time. As India goes through it, its rate of pollutions to the world are still very low. Also, you did see that they ratified the Paris accord. This is the sign of a responsible nation. US created much havoc during the Kyoto times. So acknowledge that, recognise that it is only a short time –very associated with a celebration and talk about pollution and smog in other aspects. Believe me there are enough places and things you can talk about more so in the US than in India. thanks,

        • guest

          also stop giving data—–do not live in delhi, go somewhere else. under the guise of care for nature, you are attacking hindu festivals. If you have the high regard for hinduism, then you will make instead of banning on fireworks other practices are focusesd on. Go save animals. Make the world vegetarian. BEEF INDUSTRY IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST POLLUTANT, only you do not see. I SEE NO BAN ON BEEF. STOP USING THE GUISE OF CARE FOR NATURE TO INSULT US.

        • guest

          Your comment: There is no religious connection, obligation or reason for fireworks during Diwali other than the fact that the firework industry introduced this a few decades ago

          Also, there is no religious connection between trees and Xmas. Jesus was born in Bethlehem, where you might to walk miles to see a tree. These are all northern countries festivals which existed before Christianity took over. Same with giving gifts. Gifts were brought ONLY for Jesus. Yet, year after year useless gifts are wrapped in paper after paper, killing trees after trees, for Xmas. You know that trees help reduce pollution. And they do not grow back that quickly. You care about animals who cannot care for themselves? Fight the beef industry. Thanks for being civil, but you are VERY VERY WRONG.

        • guest

          and links you sent, downtoearth is also an import from the US–I know the magazine because I worked with them briefly, HindustanTimes and many other newspapers today are funded by foreign companies hell bent on shaming HIndus in every which way. If you continue to work towards fireworks ban, but eat beef, drive a car, have friends who smoke, use plastic things, wear leather, then you are just a hypocrite——and you care is only towards killing traditions that are not yours. There are other battles to fight. Look that side.

          • Budd Margolis

            Hinduism contains numerous references to the worship of the divine in nature in its Vedas,
            Upanishads, Puranas, Sutras, and its other sacred texts. Millions of Hindus recite Sanskrit mantras daily
            to revere their rivers, mountains, trees, animals, and the earth. Although the Chipko (tree-hugging)
            Movement is the most widely known example of Hindu environmental leadership, there are examples of
            Hindu action for the environment that are centuries old.
            Hinduism is a remarkably diverse religious and cultural phenomenon, with many local and
            regional manifestations. Within this universe of beliefs, several important themes emerge. The diverse
            theologies of Hinduism suggest that:
            • The earth can be seen as a manifestation of the goddess, and must be treated with respect.
            • The five elements – space, air, fire, water, and earth – are the foundation of an interconnected web
            of life.
            • Dharma – often translated as “duty” – can be reinterpreted to include our responsibility to care for
            the earth.
            • Simple living is a model for the development of sustainable economies.
            • Our treatment of nature directly affects our karma.
            Gandhi exemplified many of these teachings, and his example continues to inspire contemporary
            social, religious, and environmental leaders in their efforts to protect the planet.

            Ten important Hindu teachings on the environment: http://www.greenfaith.org/files/top-10-hindu-teachings-handout

          • guest

            agreed wholeheartedly. and yes, it will be dharmic to take care of these things. But if you were paying attention to what has been happening to hindu festivals over the last decade, then you will know where this anger comes from. Follow the news and see what missionaries are doing, using laws, to promote a rigid way of life, far away from nature, to impose on a culture like that of hinduism. I have no personal gripe here, these things are in the context. Hinduism knows much. A few years ago, I would have gone for ban and what not. now paying attention to the world, we know that it is not just fireworks industry but cocacola industry that pushes things as well. And yet, because the latter is more powerful not only does not one say anything they have specialised ads during diwali. You see, there are gaps in this. That said, I agree with some of the things and arguments you have. Take care.

          • Budd Margolis

            Please understand, I am not at all involved in politics. It is even more polluted than the air. I respect all cultures and people except those who are trying to kill me, destroy the planet or commit crimes. I try to live to make the world just a bit better for my presence and it is not easy. I volunteer for several organisations that help Green policies to make the environment healthier and to support sustainable industry. I attended the very first Earth Day in 1970. It is an annual event, celebrated on April 22, on which day events worldwide are held to demonstrate support for environmental protection. I was 14 years old! Banning fireworks and diesel vehicles, starting an industry based on solar power for homes and offices, schools and Govt bldgs and hospitals, clean stoves, electric cars and planting trees will help. We have to manage each and every problem from crop and rubbish burning to construction dust and firecrackers. India would benefit not just in health but the cost of energy and the start of a new and clean industry would benefit many. Maybe with todays technology we can develop a clean and safer, quieter firecracker? I wish you a happy Diwali!

          • guest

            Ok understood. I know of earth day and have participated in ‘commemorations’ even the all night black out to mark it. Solar power is great. Sure, India is already working on it. And it will continue. India produced biogas decades ago —to help rural people. Now, smoke free firecrackers…ok….sound less??, may be ‘lesser sound’ the crackle and the pritter and sometimes a boom is nice. What should happen in India is a much reduction of honking!!! Now until we have those smoke free crackers, let us not scream too much about banning. Not yet. We can slowly, organically move towards them. As I said, too few of us have a way to ban cocacola, a slow but sure killer. We cannot even create an ad for TV tell ing people to stop it….you see…my point….hope you see that. btw, pankaj jain is doing good work!!

  • Budd Margolis

    Each firework or firecrackers toxic chemical output displayed on this site: http://www.hindustantimes.com/static/diwali-crackers-pollution/

  • Budd Margolis

    Education shines a light on ignorance and makes all our lives better and healthier.

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  • Budd Margolis

    Actually the impact of toxin laden fireworks have left a lingering impact on the air quality because the pollutants were not able to disperse easily as temperatures dropped and the wind speed was very low. You have to understand that there were very high intensity emissions over a very short period. While such high emissions can trigger health impacts immediately, they are also adding to the existing pollution, which is not able to escape.

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    Source: http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/Article.aspx?eid=31808&articlexml=Crackers-leave-lasting-impact-on-air-02112016002033

  • Budd Margolis
  • Budd Margolis

    Firecrackers ius ot 100% of the problem with Delhis air pollution but it is a big source and much more toxic than normal air pollution. The result is a deadly cocktail of toxins that people breath much more deeply into their lungs.
    The AQI readings of 999 is the limit so we can guess that levels are even higher than what the AQI officially reports. This is hazardous and anyone with any ailment, elderly and pregnant and children should not exert themselves. Be safe!

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  • guest

    http://www.thefrustratedindian.com/2016/11/delhi-pollution-diwali/

    the following is directly taken from the story on the url….pasted above

    While bursting cracker, undoubtedly causes pollution, it is a bit farfetched to blame the national capital’s pollution levels on Firecrackers only.

    To burst a bubble in that argument, Lahore, which is not exactly known for its Diwali celebration, too is reeling under a heavy blanket of smog in the last few days. Winter months are the worst for pollution in North India.

    Cool air in the winter months makes the air stagnant and traps particulate matter close to the ground. As dry, cold winds move in from Afghanistan and Pakistan, the air becomes rife with pollutants resulting from extensive straw burning in Punjab and other agricultural regions and literally converts Delhi into a gas chamber.